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Achtemeier’s journey to accept homosexual marriage, ordination
Written by Leslie Scanlon, Outlook national reporter   
Monday, 14 December 2009 00:00
Mark Achtemeier, an evangelical theology professor from Iowa, is in many ways an unlikely candidate for radical change. He’s a white, middle-aged Presbyterian father and husband who grew up in the church, the son of Biblical scholars.

But Achtemeier, to his own surprise, has made a trek through uncertain land over the last eight years, a journey from life-long certainty that homosexuality is “a kind of destructive addiction” to what he is today: a man who sees the Holy Spirit leading the church to “a new and better place,” and who thinks that gays and lesbians should be able to marry and be ordained.

In the kick-off plenary of the 2009 Covenant Network of Presbyterians meeting last month, Achtemeier gave his testimony, telling the story of his journey in the Presbyterian Church (U.S.A.), from a man who grew up sure that homosexual practice was wrong to one who now sees God working in the committed relationships of his gay and lesbian friends and in the faithfulness of their lives.

Yet some things have not changed.

“If there is one thing I want to emphasize above all else in this testimony, it is that this journey has not involved any kind of retreat or qualification of my strong commitment to the authority of Scripture, the Lordship of Christ, and the belief that God calls people to lives of personal holiness,” Achtemeier told the Covenant Network. “I come to you today as an out, self-affirming, practicing conservative evangelical.”

But Achtemeier, who was a member of the PC(USA)’s Theological Task Force on the Peace, Unity, and Purity of the Church — told of a journey both personal and theological, and to him deeply surprising.

“I cannot get around the fact that it was a God thing,” he said during a question-and-answer period.

It began in the days immediately following the Sept. 11 terror attacks in 2001, “when everybody in the country was talking to everybody in the country,” Achtemeier said. For him, those days led to new conversations with people, and, as it turned out, some of those people were gay Christians who over time began sharing stories of their lives and their faith.

“I started out very sure and very settled and very content with seeing exclusion (of gays and lesbians from marriage and ordained office) as God’s will for the church,” Achtemeier said. “Like many, I had succumbed to the temptations of an ecclesiastical tunnel vision: I read authors I agreed with. I talked with people I agreed with. I hung out with people I agreed with. I was exceedingly comfortable holding the position I did, I was supported in it, I was popular. And I had absolutely no reason to question any of it.

“But God had other plans. Out of the blue, opportunity opened up for serious conversation and friendship with some quite remarkable gay Christians. This was new for me. When you are a firebrand exclusivist, hurling thunderbolts and belching fire against the opposition, gay people with any sense tend to avoid your company, or at least they avoid telling you they are gay.”

His new friends, however, began sharing their faith with him and discussing with him the church’s teachings — “a remarkable gift of grace,” Achtemeier said. And through those conversations, “I started to realize the extent to which the church’s traditional teaching functioned like a sign over the sanctuary,” telling gays and lesbians they would not find anything for themselves there. “And that is not the gospel,” Achtemeier said.

He also found his own expectations and assumptions about homosexuality challenged by the lives of the friends he was getting to know.

First, Achtemeier had always assumed — had always been taught — that homosexuality “was a kind of destructive addiction.” “And having never questioned my selective and somewhat superficial interpretations of the Bible’s teaching on the subject, I assumed that a gay lifestyle must certainly involve a fairly casual attitude toward Scripture and an inclination toward personal self-indulgence.”

Because he thought this way, Achtemeier said, the arguments of progressives calling for justice and equal rights for gays and lesbians had never made sense to him – basically, they have “absolutely zero traction among traditionalists,” he said.

In his conversations, however, “what I found instead were devoted Christian believers, filled with grace and a loving concern for the downtrodden that frequently put me to shame. I was surprised to discover that they were deeply engaged in spiritual disciplines, acutely aware of their own sins and failings, and eager to bring these faults to God for healing. These were devout, spiritually self-aware people who were not the least bit hesitant to confess their failings to God.”

But these friends also said that it made no sense to them to view a life-long commitment to a partner as a matter of sin or failing. They spoke of their committed relationships in terms of love and sacrifice and joy — in exactly the kind of terms that Achtemeier would use to describe his own long heterosexual marriage.

Achtemeier was cautious because “as a good, neo-orthodox evangelical, I have on many occasions delivered myself of the standard speech about the terrible dangers that result if we allow personal experience to trump the Bible’s witness. Such a move threatens to set our own personal authority above that of Scripture; it undermines the ability of Scripture to challenge and correct us. I continue to believe that. I hold firmly to the reformation principle that Scripture alone is the highest authority for the church. … So when you start using experience to veto the message of Scripture, I and my evangelical colleagues will simply have to get off the bus.”

But Achtemeier also began to reconsider what the Bible does say about homosexuality and about God’s relationship with people.

He used as an example a sermon that St. Augustine preached in the fifth century, that those who abide in Christ “ought to walk in the same way he walked.” Augustine asked whether that meant that people should try to walk on water, because Jesus walked on water. Augustine’s suggestion is Biblical, but we know — based on our experience – that that doesn’t make sense and doesn’t work, Achtemeier said. So we look for another interpretation that takes the passage seriously but better matches our experience — one interpretation being that Christians should follow the path of righteousness and charity that Jesus followed.

“There is a vast difference between vetoing what the Bible says on the basis of experience, and looking for understandings of the Bible that make powerful sense of our experience.” Achtemeier said.

As a result, “when we find ourselves in a situation where our understanding of the Bible collides regularly with the lived experience of Christian believers, we don’t take that as a license to ignore Scripture. But it certainly ought to make us ask whether we’ve correctly understood the Bible’s teaching.”

Achtemeier also was coming to understand, through his conversations with gay friends and through study of the subject, that when gays and lesbians embraced the abstinence that evangelicals called them to adopt, or even tried to turn towards heterosexual marriage, that path often turned out to be destructive rather than life-giving.

“Once I started paying attention, I began running into more and more instances where devout gay Christians, following the church’s traditional counsel, failed to find the life-giving liberation one would expect if the alcoholism analogy were true. Instead, their heroic efforts at faithfulness led to results that were spiritually and psychologically crippling.”

Some did marry in heterosexual relationships that ended badly, causing great pain to themselves, their spouses, and children.

One very devout person “had struggled since high school with same-gender attraction, had for years prayed fervently for healing and strength and help in dealing with this compulsion. After years of courageous prayer and struggle, doing exactly what I and the church would have counseled, the result was a broken person, overwhelmed by despair and anger, ready to renounce the faith and give up on God, seriously contemplating suicide.”

Achtemeier said he did hear accounts — in part in testimony before General Assembly committees — of people who turned from homosexuality to healing heterosexual relationships.

Nearly all of them involved moving away from situations of either promiscuity or abuse, he said. “Not a one of these testimonies told a story of being involved in a loving and healthy same-gender partnership, which the person then decided to leave as an expression of Christian commitment.”

Achtemeier began to consider, based on the account in the second chapter of Genesis of God creating people intending for them to be in intimate relationship with one another, whether same-gender relationships might be a variation of that.

As he put it: “What if same-gender orientation, (rather) than being a disease of some sort, is simply (an) alternative form which this gift takes from time to time? I’ve had so many gay friends tell me, ‘I would not choose all the trouble and controversy that goes with being gay, but I was never asked. Heterosexual marriage just isn’t a possibility that is open to me.’ So isn’t what we’re dealing with here an alternative form of God’s gift of life created for communion with another, with a life-partner?”

And he considered the criticisms of mandatory celibacy from Reformation theologians such as John Calvin.

‘“Marriage is given to us, not just in a form that responds to our need, but also in a way that is positively sanctifying and life-giving and permeated by grace,” Achtemeier said. “If, as Calvin insists, it is foolish and rash for individuals to turn their backs on this divine gift and calling, how much more so when an entire church acts to withhold this gift from a whole class of human beings?”

Achtemeier said he knows that many evangelicals “hold their positions compassionately, with the best and most godly intentions.”

But he also contends that “if the Bible’s teaching does not help us make powerful sense of life and experience, if Biblical faithfulness is not life-giving, that is a sure sign we have not understood our Scripture properly.”

As word of his work on the theological task force and his growing open-mindedness on what the Bible teaches on homosexuality began to get around, he also began hearing from other evangelicals having doubts about the church’s teachings as well.

“Week in and week out I am encountering a growing company of conservative, evangelical Christians who quietly confess to me that they no longer believe exclusion is faithful. The reality of Jesus’ love for God’s gay and lesbian children is self-evident enough, it is palpable enough, that the ranks of ordinary faithful are embracing it more and more with each passing day.”
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Response from Edward D. Auchard H.R., March 06, 2010
Bryan, Ohio
Mark Achtemeier is not the only evangelical Christian who has changed his understanding of homosexuality.

I have been a Presbyterian minister since 1949. I am still a committed evangelical. I repeat the Apostles Creed with confidence. I embrace “the Word of God which is contained in the Scriptures of the Old and New Testaments” as our guide in understanding “what man is to believe concerning God, and what duty God requires of man,” I reject the journalistic practice of identifying the religious right as evangelical.

For most of my life I responded to homosexuality in terms of the Holiness Code in Leviticus and in the teaching of St. Paul in his letters to the Roman and Corinthian churches. I have read the Bible through many times. Yet, in 2007, I was startled by fresh insight from Matt. 19:11 where Jesus said, For there are eunuchs who have been so from birth, and there are eunuchs who have been made eunuchs by others, and there are eunuchs who have made themselves eunuchs for the sake of the kingdom of heaven.

The reference to those who make themselves eunuchs obviously refers to those who have renounced marriage for priesthood, as in Roman Catholic clergy. Those who were made so by others included many servants in royal courts from Babylon to the Ottoman Empire. But what about those “who have been so from birth”? Did God create male and female persons who were sexually different from the majority of other men and women? Or are those who are different also a part of the family of God?

In Leviticus, eunuchs and persons with damaged testicles were excluded from the temple. About the time I re-discovered Matt. 19:11, Elma (my wife) was reading Isaiah and found in Isaiah 56:4 the prophet’s statement: For thus says the Lord: To the eunuchs who keep my sabbaths, who choose the things that please me and hold fast my covenant, I will give, in my house and within my walls, a monument and a name better than sons or daughters; I will give them an everlasting name that shall not be cut off.

We have all discovered among our friends or even in our families those whose sexual orientation is a mystery to us. Now we realize that homosexuality, and heterosexuality, are gifts of the Creator. The homosexual person and the emerging confident gay and lesbian communities with the human family are a gift of God and an opportunity for growing understanding by all of us.

On the boards of our churches and in the ministry of the church, homosexual persons may have their unique gifts that can bless the church and humanity. To explore the meaning of this new insight and to discover new frontiers before us is a challenge to the whole church. To discover the moral meaning of out expanding understanding of humanity is a new adventure. Like all challenges, it can enrich our understanding and expand our horizons.

The moral challenge continues. The commercialization of sexuality, the coercion or exploitation of sex, either homosexual or heterosexual, remain a sin and a shame. We must learn to transcend our confusion and resolve the conflicts that are a consequence of this new moral insight and social challenge. As each of us individually, and as the family of “the One God and father of us all,” we must learn to share our treasures. Then we will discover new opportunities in the Body of Christ for ministering in a world that needs healing and hope. The church may become more evangelical, more ecumenical, and more relevant in new ministries of praise and service.



Edward D. Auchard H.R.

Bryan, Ohio
Response from Jim White, January 26, 2010
Oak Island, N.C.
As a long-time subscriber to The Presbyterian Outlook, I commend you for your editorial on "So what about the Muslims?" I think you have joined the tradition of Aubrey Brown and George Laird Hunt in terms of giving leadership to the Presbyterian Church in how to deal with those who differ from us. My experience with numerous Muslims over 37 years of ministry, particularly in Jackson, Miss., leads me to agree with you completely. The Muslims I have known have been horrified at the terrorist activities. In Jackson, almost immediately after 9/11 the imam and the rabbi issued a joint statement condemning the attacks and calling for understanding between religious groups.

Unfortunately, too many religious leaders have tried to exploit the differences for their own gain.

In addition, I appreciate the coverage you have given to Mark Achtemeier's journey. I suspect many of us who have served congregations have had similar experiences and come to similar conclusions based on our study of Scripture and our experiences with gay Christians, not to mention the witness of remarkable elders and lay leaders. Many of us have not had the courage Mark has shown to make our views as public as he has. I have no desire to enter into a public debate on this issue with my brothers and sisters for I feel there are others far more qualified. I write merely to thank you for giving Mark's journey a good hearing.

Keep up the good work.

Jim White, H.R.
Oak Island, N.C.
Response from Mike Fazzini, December 19, 2009
Pittsburgh, PA
“When the truth of the Scripture is silenced in the pulpits and distorted in our seminaries…”
Paul Muresan, associate pastor
First Presbyterian Church
Westminster, Calif.

“Yet I continue to support the "Fidelity and Chastity" language because of the clear Biblical teaching that God intends sexual intimacy to be enjoyed only in the marriage of one man and one woman.”
Dennis Canfield
Western Springs, Ill

Knowing is a wonderful thing. It can also come at a cost.

Listening and learning can stop when one has certainty. At the very least it causes us to have an ear for agreement and deafness toward opposing views regardless of their source or power. Settled understanding allows one to move on to conquering the next uncertainty and turn it into truth.

Clarity provides its own pulpit from which to dictate and proclaim “the truth”. What a blessing to be clear about sin and not sin. It is a gift. At least I would consider it so because it is not always so clear to me.

Although scripture has and will continue to be our guide, the “truth” of scripture has been a moving target since the Bible was first proclaimed to be the inspired word of God. It is a dynamic document suited to be read by the learned and the not so learned each of whom garner, sometimes similar, sometimes different truths upon its reading. It is a place we turn to so that we can make sense of our experience.

When we proclaim its “truth” we declare it to be the Bible’s truth and not our own. We are flawed, it is perfect.

But what is the truth of scripture? Why do we do battle over it so?

If the Bible speaks to what is “the truth”, why are there so many seminaries filled with people both learning and teaching who cannot seem to wrap their arms around exactly what “the truth” is about pieces of our shared lives? We have the primer but cannot seem to convert it to the lesson to be learned with agreement.

Over the years the most contentious topics, slavery, women in ministry, divorce, the role of government in providing for the common good and others have brought forward a different “truth” than what had previously been the proclaimed “truth”.

I cannot understand why this fact does not bring us to a point of greater humility about proclaiming with such certainty what we know to be true.

As we become more awake as human beings, as our learning both about the outer and inner world of humanity expands how can we not expect what we “know to be true” to change?

It seems to me that truth begins in the hearts of men and women. In order to recognize it we must be predisposed to it. Our judgment about what is true will reflect what we bring to it as our foundation for discernment.

As the parent of a gay son and as the President of PFLAG (Parents, Families and Friends of Lesbians and Gays) Pittsburgh I fall victim to the same disheartening admonishment with which I began my comments here. I am certain. It comes with a cost.

I am certain that God is big enough to sort this whole (gay) thing out for the Church and while He is doing so we need to be kind and open to His people, all of His people. We need to be generous because we have been given more than we deserve. By extension, how can we do less?

To say that someone who is gay and happens to be legally married or in a committed relationship (in states where marriage isn’t possible) is, a priori, not capable of being a good example of Christian leadership is outside of my experience. It is also outside of what I have come to know from scripture.

To use Mark Achtemeier’s own words, “There is a vast difference between vetoing what the Bible says on the basis of experience, and looking for understandings of the Bible that make powerful sense of our experience.”

Achtemeier’s change of view, coming to an acceptance of the notion of gay marriage and ordination, speaks to God sorting this whole thing out. It speaks to what happens when one truly is open to seeing and hearing his/her fellow human beings. If it happens not to reflect your world view and certainty about scripture I’m afraid I don’t know what to do about that except pray and continue to follow the Spirit’s lead in my own life.

This brings me to the cost of my certainty. I am frustrated and disappointed in my Church for being so slow to move with definitive guidance. It leads me to question my place in the Church. Do I belong here? If I don’t, who else doesn’t?

There is little doubt in my mind, although maybe not in the minds of many who read this letter, that the Church, right now, is on the wrong side of history.

In decades to come we will look back upon this argument and wonder how we could have treated people as we now do. It will be a settled matter that gay and lesbian people living out their sexual self expression as homosexuals of course makes sense and is how God intended them to live.

Good for you Mark Achtemeier.

Mike Fazzini
Elder, Fox Chapel Presbyterian Church
Pittsburgh, PA



Response from RE: Achtemeier’s journey (pub. Dec. 14/21, 2009), December 15, 2009
Westminster, Calif.
I am very sad to read about “the journey “ of Mark Achtemeier. When the truth of the Scripture is silenced in the pulpits and distorted in our seminaries, we can only expect the judgment to fall on our disobedience. The article defines Mr. Achtemeier as an evangelical professor. Who can define evangelical any longer? Can anyone help me understand the definition?

We got the Scripture interpreted to say what we want to hear and the Holy Spirit to guide us where we want to go.

Well there is hope. This shall end and when it will, we will be surprised!

Paul Muresan, associate pastor
First Presbyterian Church
Westminster, Calif.

Response from Noel Anderson, December 14, 2009
Bakersfield, CA
Achtemeier has departed the Coalition camp for the Covenant Network, greatly improving both groups by his move.

RE: “if the Bible’s teaching does not help us make powerful sense of life and experience, if Biblical faithfulness is not life-giving, that is a sure sign we have not understood our Scripture properly.”

Either that or we just prefer our own good over the good God intends for us. Whatever happened to obedience?
Response from Dennis Canfield, December 14, 2009
Western Springs, Ill.
Re: Achtemeier and homosexual marriage/ordination (pub. Dec. 14/21, 2009)

While Mark Achtemeier may be an "unlikely candidate for radical change," I, as a long-time member of the Fourth Presbyterian Church of Chicago, am an unlikely candidate to avoid the same radical change. These past twenty years, in the pews and among the members of Fourth Church, I have had ample exposure to every argument in favor of the goal of removing the Fidelity and Chastity language of our Book of Order. Yet I continue to support the "Fidelity and Chastity" language because of the clear Biblical teaching that God intends sexual intimacy to be enjoyed only in the marriage of one man and one woman.
I am grateful to Fourth Church leadership and members for being among the influences that make me much more empathetic than I may previously have been to the plight of those who are barred from leadership positions because they are active in sexual relationships outside of marriage. Like (the) Rev. Achtemeier, I feel that I have grown in my understanding of this issue. I may previously have believed that God punishes us for violating his teachings; now, I believe that He weeps for us, because He knows that straying from His teachings inevitably leads us only to unhappiness and suffering.
Imagine a society where we adhered completely to the teaching against adultery; there would be no suffering from sexually transmitted diseases, no children born out of wedlock to mothers who are themselves still children, and stronger marriages, families and communities. We should strive to move closer to this unachievable ideal, not farther away from it. Only by upholding the authority and teachings of Scripture can our church help our society to move in the right direction.

Dennis Canfield
Western Springs, Ill.



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