Where have all the “angry” elders gone?

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As a teaching elder, long in tooth and at the risk of being branded a heretic, I feel compelled to comment on what I perceive in reading, listening and generally observing the actions and rhetoric surrounding present activities within the PC(USA).

 

I sense the growing lack of positive representation and/or comprehension of the essential responsibilities of role on the part of ruling elders and the more aggressive assertion and expansion of role on the part of teaching elders.

 

A few years ago, COGA conducted a training session which highlighted the duties of elders and pointed to the need for elders who truly accepted and bought into their intended role and it referred to them as “angry Elders." That terminology spoke directly to a problem that was manifesting itself and has since proliferated.

 

Traditionally (definitely historically ) there existed a healthy balance of powers which in recent years has become dominated by the teaching elders simply by the fact that many ruling elders have ceded their role ( not necessarily by intention ) in the balance of thought , word and deed which should exist in a collegial, democratic relationship. Apparently bowing to what one might presume as a "sellout" or acquiescence on the part of the laity, due in the main to a lack of knowledge with respect to polity as well as a strong sense of the give and take of a meaningful, positive collegial relationship and acceptance of the intended governmental equality of their position.

 

In observing recent actions, many schismatic, within the denomination it is starkly apparent the leadership, conceptual thinking and lopsided rhetoric has been formulated, generated and implemented from a mainly clergy perspective, driven essentially by teaching elders. Certainly that is borne out as one reads the accounts of the actions of these bodies. Having witnessed a similar dynamic as an observer in General Assembly committee meetings, there is little doubt in my mind that this critical imbalance is guiding denominational movement in a dangerous direction.

 

The problem is in reality a systemic boondoggle due in the main to the very dramatic change which is taking place across the denomination with respect to membership loss and financial loss, all exacerbated by the debilitating effect of aging across the spectrum. The membership well is slowly drying up and available, capable people are in scarce supply. Sadly, the great majority have reached a stage in life where they are ready to slow down and coast, content to be passive participants.

 

So....A great many congregations are graying and grasping at straws, frankly seeking any warm body to serve in a most critical role and by default unable to effectively fuel a vital collegial balance. Elder training has in far too many instances become folly so those so selected and elected are thus susceptible to play "follow the leader" as the path of least resistance or risk of rancorous controversy.

 

As this process compounds and goes forward, the balance of power continues to shift and disintegrate and the resulting actions, once the envy of many denominations, move resolutely toward clergy domination and away from the intended Calvinist concept of Presbyterianism, and the long intended role of the ruling elder becomes sublimated and thus structurally ineffective. All of which points us in a precarious direction and away from our long-defended, once effective, Presbyterian roots.

 

So, what to do? The logical means by which to approach this dilemma is to embark on and develop a program/ methodology that can – not unlike the phenomenon that occurred within all mainline denominations following World War II and sustained the church well into the late 1900s – lead to an infusion of young, energetic leaders and families, a new generation of members who possess the vitality necessary to re-infuse our sagging fortunes, prayerfully, for another 50 years (but keep the focus on new life and not rest on our oars). Train them properly and turn them loose and the result could well herald a restoration of badly needed balance/equality in our processes... In short, the answer is new, younger members who are enthused, willing and buy into and implement our modernized polity.

 

 

Retired, longtime marketing executive and consultant, and CEO of two corporations, Jim Babcock of Bozeman, Mont., is a lifelong Presbyterian ruling elder. Ordained for 52 years, he has served as moderator of presbytery, trustee of the PC(USA) Foundation and a member of COGA. Married for 62 years, has has raised six children, and served on many charitable organization boards.


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James McTyre said:

Knoxville, TN
A comment I have heard from more than one ruling elder commissioner to presbytery meetings is that the lack of civility among clergy toward each other makes the meetings too unpleasant to be worthwhile. "You're going to run all the elders off if you can't treat each other better than that."
March 06, 2012

Jim Babcock said:

Bozeman, Montana
Jill... One further thought. An element which is becoming a very real problem and is exacerbating the imbalance,particularly at Ptresbytery level deliberations today is the voting weight that is shifting toward the Cergy side of the ledger due to the increasing number of retired clergy attending and granted voting priveledge.

I have no problem with retired clergy but it surely is a " control " factor and one which should be addresed if we arein fact going to restore and preserve the proper collegial balance to our process. It still does not address the reticnce of well indocrinated Elder participation....Jim
March 05, 2012

JIm Babcock said:

Bozeman, Montana
Jill your are so right. One major factor a Presbytery and other judicatory levels is the question of avaiable time. Clergy have it at their disposal and they use it to their advantage. Those of us from the work-a-day world do not have that luxury. The problem is further exacerbated from the expense point of view. Sure most judicatories reimbuse for meals, rooms and travel but time away from the workplace is a vital concern and it particularly impacts the younger elements of our society. Thanks for your observations... Jim
March 02, 2012

John Erthein said:

DeFuniak Springs, FL
Thanks to Jim Babcock for his response to my post. I should mention that my current session seems a lot healthier than my previous one. I do not consider my role as Moderator to try and dominate a Session ... never have, never will (I think!). Unfortunately, in the case of my previous session that contributed to a disorderly and contentious atmosphere. Frankly, I felt a sense of dread before each meeting ... "what will happen this time?" So, in that sense we have had different experiences, and of course different perspectives as a Ruling Elder and Teaching Elder. Thanks for the stimulating conversation.
February 28, 2012

Jim Babcock said:

Bozeman, Montana
I guess in summing up many of the comments a couple of the overriding concerns would boil down to a lack of proper indocrination and a lack of respect. I find both concerns troubling and they both convey a prominent dose of willful/deliberat neglect. I will not even attempt to pose the question why because the answer is answer is as clear as crystal.

Our polity calls for a collegial relationship which implies not only mutualrespect but mutual acceptance and respect for the specific calling but if one party is not only not respected but in reality filling only a perfunctory or ritual role, which is quite clearly the casei many congregations is it any wonder that our entire govermental process has, and is, become sadly skewed....perhaps misdirected ?
February 28, 2012

Jim Babcock said:

Bozeman, Montana
In response to John Erthein'S comments, I to have served on Sessions where each Elder comprehended their collegial resposabilities and exercised them, I have also served onm Sessions wher the preponderance of the members didn't have a clue or care and simply played " follow the leader ". In the latter circumstance the Moderator fully relished the position of power and control which is precisely my concern. It is this dynamic which is currently playing out across the denomination and which will proliferate until we can infuse our sagging roles with energetic, interested new bodies who will truly perceive their collegial role.
February 27, 2012

Jill Moormann said:

Cincinnati, Ohio
It seems that there are lots of contributing factors to the loss of ruling elders. Many are mentioned in the commentary and responses, but I would argue there are several others. I'm going to address what I see as a ruling elder very involved on a presbytery level. First, many presbyteries schedule their meetings and committees during the day when many younger ruling elders are at work. Our presbytery doesn't meet until 5:00 and even that is difficult for many ruling elders. They have to leave work early to attend meetings. Second, a significant number of clergy treat ruling elders in a very condescending way, even those of us who are well grounded in reformed theology and are committed to the church. Why would ruling elders want to be involved in a system in which they are not respected? I have great respect for many members of the clergy (they are among my best role models), but there are quite a few others who are far too impressed with their seminary degrees and far too disdainful of anyone who doesn't have one. Finally, many presbyteries have downsized to the point that those involved are wondering about the relevance of what they are doing. Gone are the days of programs and mission events which regularly engaged the presbytery in meaningful ministries and opportunities for spiritual growth. Now those programs and events are fewer and farther apart. Those experiences energized the ruling elders. We really need to reconsider how we are doing mission and ministry beyond the local congregation if we want ruling elders to engage in the connectional church.
February 25, 2012

James Black said:

Panama City, Fla
I hate to have to agree with all the diagnosis expessed but I must. The Ruling Elders, for many reasons, are not all that "into Reformed theology and polity"...even if many ministers made a more or less whole-hearted attempt to teach them. Thus, the ministers did become more "in charge of" the issues of the day and the schedules for presenting them in the highter councils of the church. Thus, it promoted or gave birth to many lay persons becoming more "Baptist like" in how they saw the changing times. The breach...encouraged by the Layman, etc....only hastened the divisiveness. I wonder, where will the Layman go now that they did their work to enhance the parting of the ways?
February 22, 2012

John Erthein said:

DeFuniak Springs, FL
My experience has been somewhat different from what Mr. Babcock sets out. In my previous church, I found that Elders were very assertive. Expressing their opinions was never a problem. The issue, as I saw it, was their lack of interest in and refusal to learn about Reformed theology, polity and ethics. The result was very damaging ... people with a sense of entitlement but little sense of responsibility.
February 19, 2012

Jim Babcock said:

Bozeman, Montana
As I commented and have witnessed in several instances, Elder training has become folly. This is not universal but certainly widespread enough to create a severe imbalance, particularly when those poorly indoctrinated end up at GA and as such fall prey to the dominance of Teaching Elders in committee debate. Likewise the same dynamic prevails at local judicatory levels. It is indeed sad and until the balance can be restored with a new, youger cadre of leadership the balance and our governmental process will remain skewed which surely does not bode well as one contemplates our denominatioal future.
February 18, 2012

James Babcock said:

Bozeman, Montana
I totally agree with both the commentarties but tragically the whole matter boils down to .. TRUST/EQUALITY...for some tragic reason the so called " educated professionals" have longed for a day in the cun so it serves their purpose to apply the "mushroom theory" to that sub-class they elect to call Ruling Elders play by their rules and do not threaten their self-righteousness
February 15, 2012

p.w. gregory said:

lambertville, nj
It is not so much all the elders got old and went into managed care, as it is the current sad state of affairs is a result of the slow, but sea-change in the polity of the church since about 1930's.

At the end of the fundamentalist-modernists struggle the main-line Presbyterians adopted a more "professional" or industrial, top-down model of church government. The "ruling elders", and lay people were deemed either not educated or sufficently trustworthy enough by the eastern establishment of the old North American church, and Presbyteries by and large morphed from a fellowship of shared responsibility between teaching and ruling elders and more like an AMA, or local Bar Association. A professional regulatory or quality control organization.
Even today, look how we as an ordained professional class treat CLP, or tent-makers as second class citizens.

This is why the core fuction of all presbyteries have nothing to do with evangelism or church development, or ruling elder development for that matter, and all to do with COMs, PJCs, and more or less care, feeding and management of an educated priestly class of professionals. No wonder the lay sort of took a holiday or left. Combine this with the pronouced feminization of the church the last 50 years, and you get what you get, some older men,and lots of older women now too tired and too over-committeed to do the work.

Does the NGP, new paradigms and ways of being do anyting to re-vitalize the church? Given the current state, sure cannot hurt at this point.
February 15, 2012

Rev Dan Clark said:

Warminster PA
I think Jay has been in the Willie Wonka Chocolate factory too long! Your ideas, while laudable, are never going to come to fruition. Why? Presbyterians believe in the insider church only. Our evangelism was biology. We no longer communicate with the world most people occupy. Where is our budget for advertizing? Why is the national church not spending money on using the expertise of the secular advertising ocmpanies who know how to reach our audience? Why do we give air time to the fundys? What is wrong with paying the hard bucks to keep our face on television? Well, enjoy the chocolate.
February 14, 2012

Kyle Walker said:

Bryan, Texas
The crisis is found in the fact that we do not train and nurture ruling elders. They abdicate because they do not have confidence in their abilities. Essentially, I see too many teaching elders keeping control by keeping their ruling elders in the dark.
February 14, 2012

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