Comments for Room in the inn at http://www.pres-outlook.org , comment 1 to 7 out of 7 comments http://www.pres-outlook.org Thu, 09 Sep 2010 06:19:55 +0100 FeedCreator 1.7.3 http://www.pres-outlook.org/opinion/editorials/9459-room-in-the-inn.html#comment-5093 A nation without borders is no nation at all. For years, policies such as those recommended in your editorial been our de facto border policies and have allowed drugs to flow freely across our borders. It is not only the people who enter our home by sneaking through the window rather than ringing the doorbell who destroy our nation by demanding free education, food, medical care, and housing. It is the politicians and people such as yourself who ignore the massive drug problem and violence/gun smuggling which result from loose border policies. The same people who promote the killing of unborn children work to keep the borders porous and the drugs and guns flowing. My wife is an immigrant, and we know many immigrants. Our immigration policy is a shambles, but it is kept that way so that millions of people can sneak through our border windows to pillage our homes. Immigrants who enter legally are very welcome in this country. Thieves who steal their way into the country, drive without insurance, do not buy medical insurance, and send their money home without paying taxes in this country need to be recognized as the scavengers they are. There are many ways to help them and many policy changes which could improve this situation, but ignoring crime and choosing to support criminals over lawabiding citizens does not say much for you or the organizations which you represent. - Robert Hughes Tue, 08 Dec 2009 12:07:24 +0100 http://www.pres-outlook.org/opinion/editorials/9459-room-in-the-inn.html#comment-5083 As others have raised the banner cry of the strange connection made between "illiegal immigrants" and Joseph and Mary in this article, I too find myself wondering about the strange hermeneutic involved in making that connection. Would we be as quick to make a connection between Mr. Haberer's comment on "by defying the royal decree they saved the life of one who would save the lives of countless others" with pro-life sentiments concerning civil disobedience? Or would we as quickly make a connection on the relationship between abortion and Jesus' message of "as you did it to one of the least of these, you did it to me?" It is a tangled web we weave when we sentimentalize texts through the welcome emotional warmth of the season to expedite an otherwise political end... While the two are not completely inseparable neither are they necessarily conjoined. Contextualization is everything... - Glen Hallead Wed, 02 Dec 2009 14:15:21 +0100 http://www.pres-outlook.org/opinion/editorials/9459-room-in-the-inn.html#comment-5082 Jack: Toby Brown is apparently right about Goodwin's Law. So I hope you'll take another swipe at this and avoid the obvious land mines. I am pastor to an American born teenager who had to mourn at a distance a grandparent's death in the old country because parents are apparently illegal. I would not seek any general amnesty. But surely we can do better than our current laws and the "send them all back and let them try again in another age" attitude of some of my own friends. - Ronald Owens Wed, 02 Dec 2009 14:03:54 +0100 http://www.pres-outlook.org/opinion/editorials/9459-room-in-the-inn.html#comment-5074 This is a textbook example of begging the question. - Noel Anderson Tue, 01 Dec 2009 05:12:35 +0100 http://www.pres-outlook.org/opinion/editorials/9459-room-in-the-inn.html#comment-5071 Jack: I fail to see how the Christian response to shelter Jews from certain death at the hands of Nazi's translates into a Christian willingness to support immigration for whoever wants it for whatever reason. Our laws may be imperfect, and our immigration policies in need of reform, but they hardly constitute genocide. A little more nuance please. - Mike Garrett Mon, 30 Nov 2009 16:36:00 +0100 http://www.pres-outlook.org/opinion/editorials/9459-room-in-the-inn.html#comment-5070 Godwin's Law alert! If you want us to take your arguments seriously and discuss them, comparing people with whom you disagree to Nazis is pretty much a conversation killer. - Toby Brown Mon, 30 Nov 2009 13:06:39 +0100 http://www.pres-outlook.org/opinion/editorials/9459-room-in-the-inn.html#comment-5069 Jack, while I think one can make a strong argument from Christian moral principles for comprehensive immigration reform, I also think it is completely inappropriate to compare America's laws to those of Nazi Germany, in any way, shape, or form. People who come here in violation of our laws face deportation if they are apprehended. Perhaps that should not happen. But to compare deportation back to one's country of origin to what happened to Jews who were apprehended by the Nazis? That disgusts me. I think you have insulted victims of the Holocaust with this facile and frankly stupid comparison. This is the worst editorial you have ever written. - John Erthein Mon, 30 Nov 2009 12:52:18 +0100