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Who will be the first "evangelical" pastor in our ranks to leave the pack and set the pace for a new day with regard to the marriage and ordination of GLBT persons?

The Biblical work has been done.

As with regard to the historical processes relating to race and to women, various conservative groups solemnly sited Scripture and wrote ponderous tomes in support of the status quo, claiming the weight of history, the wrath of God and the righteous certitude of their cause as legitimation of their view.

I know there are evangelical pastors in our ranks who are uncomfortable with the evangelical freight train hurtling toward withdrawal from the PCUSA, a freight train largely out of control now, as various folks made decisions that now have a life of their own. 

Always interesting, albeit sad, to watch how, in any of our lives, decisions made  take on a life of their own as time unfolds, compelling us to make further decisions never intended or envisioned at the front.

Many of my evangelical colleagues are women and men of prayer and thought, and I know their level of discomfort with the more vociferous voices in their ranks.

Sooner or later, one of them, perhaps at the cost of a job in a deep-pocket congregation, will break ranks and lead the way ... as did some friends, way back when, who took to the pulpit one Sunday and made it clear that segregation was a sin. And those congregations rose up in whiteous (yes, that's what intended to write) indignation and showed their uppity preacher the door. 

Truth can be costly, as we all regularly preach, but rarely want to experience.

But a price is paid both ways. Silence and acquiescence take their toll, too, depleting the soul of its integrity, compelling the pastor to nod her head and voice his agreement when, in fact, the heart, if not crying out, trembles a bit at the ease with which conscience is sacrificed on the altar of job security and sublimation - and by sublimation, I mean: substituting a thousand good things for the one thing that counts.

Anyway ... enough for now.

I wonder: Who will it be?

To step into the pulpit one Sunday and say, "Discrimination against GLBT persons and our work to bar them from ordination and marriage is wrong, just plain wrong, and any or all thoughts of pulling up stakes and going our own way, or aligning with another denomination is just plain nonsense, and it's time for us to get back to the real business of the Gospel."

Which evangelical pastor, in what congregation, will break from the pack and set the pace.

Who will it be?

WHO will it be?

 

 

 



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Response from P Johnston, September 08, 2009
Canada
Doesn't Jack Rogers qualify for the title of "the first"? Wasn't he an evangelical who broke ranks and (tried) to set a new pace for affirmation of homosexuality? And if he doesn't qualify as "the first," who does or would?
Response from Ben Seller, September 04, 2009
Casa Grande, AZ
What about those of us pastors who grew up affirming GLBT ordination (I affirmed GLBT ordination my entire life never once disagreeing with it) and finally came to the conclusion that if we were going to take the Scriptures seriously that we could no longer affirm what we once did. It takes courage when you lose all of your prior support and friends because you take the road of orthodoxy over culture.
Response from Toby Brown, September 03, 2009
Butler, PA
This blog just continues to get worse and worse. This stuff is just embarrassing to the Outlook. Shut it down before your publication loses what respect it has left!
Response from Will Jackson, September 02, 2009
Cedar Rapids, IA
I shouldn't be so surprised this late in our denomination's "dialogue" regarding GLBT issues, but I suppose I will never get accustomed to the typical liberal sentiment of condescending self-righteousness expressed in this writing. It is clear that Mr. Eggebeen hasn't really listened even to one point ever expressed by an evangelical. Either that, or he is just heartily contemptuous of such.
Response from Daniel McMillan, September 02, 2009
Enterprise, AL 36330
There has already been a "first" to leave the fold of orthodoxy. Actually, many "firsts". It seems when token evangelicals engage the discussions surround marriage, family, or some other hot topic of the day, they're always the ones pressured to compromise their positions. The Peace, Unity, and Purity task force is a recent exhibit A. You don't hear of compromise from the other side, do you?

Enough with compromise and getting along. It's time to stand for the truth of Apostolic teaching (see especially Paul in Romans and Corinthians). I fear the the PCUSA bureacracy has already lead astray too many. I wonder if the denomination is salvagable in its present state of confusion and compromise with worldly values and beliefs...
Response from Paul Masters, September 02, 2009
Council Bluffs, Iowa
Thank you Tom Eggebeen for demonstrating once again that we are not speaking the same language. You wonder when the first evangelical will break ranks and speak out against discrimination against GLBT persons. I don’t know where you have been but I have NEVER heard someone promote active discrimination from the pulpit. Let’s leave the burning crosses at home, shall we?

You claim that the Biblical work has been done. The only thing I have heard for the past 20 or so years are superficial straw dog arguments that seek to classify homosexual behavior with outmoded Levitical purity codes. At the risk of being blunt, the issue is not about which appendage is inserted into which orifice. The issue derives from whence we derive our core identity.

We live in a highly sexualized culture which implicitly states that one cannot have an authentic human experience unless one is sexually active. Our culture pressures young people at ever younger ages to declare their sexual identity. These labels in turn are used to classify and predict human behavior. As if human behavior can ever be classified and predicted! The fact that we have categories of Bisexual and Transgendered is proof enough that the narrative that posits gay or straight orientation is just as arbitrary as the narrative that claimed the sun revolved around the earth.

As Reform theologians we affirm that our core identity derives from our relationship to God through Jesus Christ. Any other basis of our core identity falls into the realm of idolatry. That’s why it is commandment #1- it is the easiest to break. If I affirm any other basis for my identity- gender, ethnic background, economic status, political affiliation or whatever, I am an idolater and should not be ordained.

Bottom line, there is no Gay, there is no Straight. There’s only us, broken failures who stand in the need of God’s grace. On that basis I will relate to anyone, even if I do not speak their language.

I don’t know if the PC(USA) will implode. That is not my primary concern. I’ll make you a deal. If you will desist in attempting to claim moral high ground by painting me with the broad brushstrokes of racism, sexism, etc I’ll buy lunch at a time and place of your own choosing. But until then, could you please back off from the inflammatory language?

Paul Masters
Pastor, New Horizon Presbyterian Church
Council Bluffs, Iowa

Response from Bob Jack, September 02, 2009
Charlotte, NC
So, let me get this straight...Evangelicals exclusively lack integrity and have sold out to the god of materialism in our heartless, discriminatory treatment of LGBT folks. Oh, and we don't really understand Scripture, either. Actually, you got one thing right -- "the Biblical work has been done." Gagnon's done it, and I'm sorry you cannot accept it.
Response from Cameron Smith, September 02, 2009
Salem, VA
To call the blog entry "Who Will Be the First?" extemely arrogant would be a profound understatement. I suspect that many of us "evangelicals" who are staying will rather prefer to be defrocked than sell out our Lord.
Response from Noel Anderson, September 02, 2009
Bakersfield, CA
You got it wrong: hundreds have already "left the pack." They're now in the PCA, EPC, or any of dozens of denominations not pushing the envelope to the secular left.

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